Our Habits After Disincarnation — Spotify from the CEC Library

"I listened to your CD ‘The Astral Plane’ and admit that I found it very interesting. Before, I had a very distant idea of what the spiritual plane is, but as I have been learning, several things have begun to make sense. I would like to ask about a conclusion I reached. According to what you say, we are always interacting with the spiritual world even if we do not see it. Could this be related to the following fact: after the premiere of the film "Chico Xavier," many people who took part in this production changed their lives. It is as though they entered a very positive atmosphere that made them see many good things."

When I read this, I remembered that many accidents were reported during the production of the film "The Exorcist" and, if I am not mistaken, there was even a death. When I learned of this information a long time ago, I thought that people attached too much mysticism to things and that it was only a coincidence. After obtaining some information about spirituality, I began to consider that this might have some basis. I would like to know your opinion about what I have said, specifically about the effects our positive and negative thoughts have on the environment, what we attract, and what happens. Can we harm others with our thoughts?

I watched a documentary in which the actors spoke about their participation in the film "Chico Xavier," and it was quite moving. Chico Xavier's attitudes and behavior and his story do in fact move people, and, most importantly in my view, so does the example each person sets. Personally, I believe that we should embody what we say. If you talk about spirituality and practice it, you need to be spiritual. This is essential: you must live and experience it in order to convey what you say with maximum intensity.

Regarding "The Exorcist," according to what I read in a report, the actress who plays the person possessed by the demon faced many problems and difficulties. I do not know for certain, because I am only repeating what I read, but it seems that she had problems with drugs and that some people actually died, according to the report.

I think this may be true because we influence the environment we are in. We capture energy and exteriorize energies according to how we encode them. I believe this 100%. You receive immanent energy, which passes through you, through your chakras, and especially through the greater force you exert: constant thoughts, emotions, and feelings. After passing through all this, the energy is exteriorized into the environment. Thus, what happens is that it has already been encoded according to what you are. Imagine pure immanent energy, without encoding, passing through an extremely ill-tempered person; that person will encode it with the frequencies of their bad temper.

Instead of being light and tranquil, the energies can become dense and unfavorable. Those in the environment will feel the heaviness of the atmosphere. This can be perceived in everyday life. When a cheerful, happy, expansive person approaches, the environment becomes pleasant. On the other hand, the presence of someone who is ill-tempered, sad, unhappy, and dissatisfied generates negative energy because the person transfers their dissatisfaction to the energetic and emotional field.

Things truly begin in our emotional process and become the energy we exteriorize. Does it affect the environment? Of course it does. Anyone who watched the Chico Xavier film could certainly feel the strength he had. In fact, something very interesting happened: a few weeks ago, I interviewed Chico Xavier's son, Eurípedes, in Uberaba. The story went more or less like this: I was at the Uberlândia airport, and he sat beside me, struck up a conversation, and we began to talk. He showed me the leaflets he had and the book he was taking to Porto Alegre that day, where he would launch the book he had written. He said that the copy was autographed for me, which was very good. I was very happy about that.

We began talking, and he said, "Look, if you would like, I will come on your program in Uberaba so that we can talk about spirituality." I replied, "Of course! Then I will check a date right away, and we will talk about this, which I consider a very important subject." We interviewed Eurípedes, who began recounting Chico Xavier's life live on air. It was very interesting. I think this is the meaning of our life and our work: we talk not only about the things that lead us to growth and evolution, but also about the people who promote them. Chico Xavier's life was certainly a life to which one cannot remain indifferent. What will you say about Chico Xavier? We have to bow to him.

When everything he did and went through is added together, it reveals that few people can do this. It does not matter what happened; what matters is that the product, the result, was very positive, and the people who actually made the film were deeply moved, and some even changed the way they saw things.

Now, if you watch a very heavy film about war and destruction, you will receive information that you will have to process internally; there is no way to avoid it. This may make you feel bad. Therefore, do you need to watch war films to learn how to deal with this? You can watch them occasionally, but you should not do so all the time, because this creates a habit. The individual picks up a machine gun and, from the beginning to the end of the film, kills everyone, including the director, resulting in the deaths of 50, 60, or 70 people, which is impressive.

I once counted the number of deaths in a film while watching it with my daughter, and we said, "Wow..." She commented, "Dad, he has already killed fifteen people." I replied, "Wait, he will outdo himself and reach twenty-five." What does a film like that add to your life? It does not add much.

I think we really should generate the highest-quality energies, and competence is required to do that. No one needs competence to cause misfortune. To do good, be better, grow, and evolve, you will need to work very hard. We have to be better, because being bad is very easy. Being bad requires no effort; all you have to do is swear and attack someone, and you have already achieved it. That is even worse. Doing good, finding ways to improve yourself, and also enabling another person to improve, grow, and evolve requires effort. You will have to learn.

We can harm others with our thoughts, producing energies that are worse or better, but we can also help them with our thoughts. How many times does someone present a problem to you and you find a solution, while someone else presents a problem and it becomes bigger than it was? Therefore, it is true that through who we are and what we think, we can produce better or worse energies.

"Moisés Esagüi, I would like some clarification. In one of your lectures, I heard it said: 'The spirit does not need to eat, does not need to drink, bathe, or breathe; it does so only out of ignorance.' If we cannot apply what we learn here, what can we do on the other side? When I heard this statement, I had the feeling that spirits live a reality that does not exist. Is that right? If so, how can I know whether I will be like that as well?"

We learn many things here and become attached to these behaviors; we create habits and, when we move to the other plane, we think we still have a physical body. So, when we go to the other plane, we believe, for example, that we must walk. Why do we walk here? On the other plane, we are energy, and the energy corresponds to our psychosoma, a specific energy that is much less dense than physical energy.

Our physical body is a vehicle; the astral body is a vehicle; the mental body is a vehicle. If our physical body weighs about 60 kilograms, our etheric double weighs much less, and the astral body even less. The density is lower; everything is less. To give you an idea, if we removed all the empty spaces from the physical body, it would become approximately the size of a pinhead. Thus, we realize that we are made up of a great deal of space, even though we are already dense. Imagine, then, an astral body.

Why would the astral body need to eat anything? Everything is energy; any energy nourishes it. If it needs to perform this circulation, the astral body has chakras and captures energy, as we do here. This is why we become vitalized when we are in a place where energy is immanent, such as a forest, waterfall, or mountain. It is different, for example, if you enter clear water: you become revitalized. Our astral body captures the energy together with the etheric double, the golden double, and the mental body.

We act out of ignorance because this is how we learned and we keep repeating things. To give you an idea, I will tell you something quite funny: my mother had an altar at home. When she prayed early in the morning, all the spirits came to pray with her. She asked that they be well and so on, and they prayed asking for the same thing she did. They learned this way here on Earth, so they do the same. She put out food for the spirits, who came at breakfast time, and I saw that group of spirits gathered there.

It was very funny, but also very disturbing, because a very large number of spirits gather, and they tend to increase, not decrease. They believe they can actually eat, but this is not based on enlightenment. They do this because they do not know that the spiritual world is different from this one. Things are not the same. It is important to know that they do not need to bathe, drink water, eat anything, or engage in physical behaviors, as many people report. At lunchtime, my father always sat at the table, as he did at dinnertime. Some people report hearing noises that indicate the presence of a father, an uncle, or another person who used to sit at the table. He is accustomed to doing the same thing, whether at the time the person arrives or at the time they leave for work. He will continue repeating all of this.

It is good to know this so that we can use our limited knowledge and stop repeating the things we did here on Earth, because that is how we learned. We do not do this only in the spiritual world; it also occurs in our reincarnatory repetitions. In your previous life, you were something; in this life, you tend to do that thing because it is easier. I myself have recounted that I was a priest in three reincarnations. Imagine the degree of repetition involved in doing the same thing. You might think that I could not evolve as a priest, but we can always evolve in some way, and it is important to learn new things; otherwise, we will continue repeating unnecessary patterns.

There are things you truly will have to do: the repetitions necessary for existence in this world. Physiological repetitions, for example, occur in the physical world: one needs to use the bathroom, eat, and sleep; these are repetitions. But the spirit does not need them. However, because you are accustomed to them, you will likely do what you did when you had a physical body, even on the spiritual plane. Imagine a spirit urinating, bathing, sleeping. It has all the time in the world; time there is different from time here. With knowledge, one frees oneself from these things.