St. Damian - Talking about masters and gurus over lunch — YouTube from the CEC Library

I was talking about the process of evolution. People have the notion that the more you evolve, the more invulnerable you become to everything. The great master would therefore be invulnerable. But the more evolved you become, the more sensitive you become. It is not a matter of having sensitivity and perception of everything while remaining invulnerable. Evolution does not bring only the rich perception of happiness and light, the ability to see people more clearly, and the ability to see yourself better. It brings an entire context of this world that we need to learn to deal with. It is not easy because we always think we have evolved and are free. As long as you have this physical body, you are in a relationship with the people of this world. There is a positive side and a negative side. The positive side is that you can work to improve this world.

The negative side is that you will suffer the consequences of this world. Look at Chico Xavier: I was with him many times. He was in a position where he had to meet the needs of all those needy people. People will call on you and think that you are going to heal the world. But no one realizes that you are already working. Your work is not to serve each person but to serve everyone. As you evolve, your consciousness tends to move toward the higher chakras. As you have greater activity in a higher chakra, your consciousness is in it. In other words, what you do is in it.

Your ability to receive subtle energy increases. Your symbolic perception increases greatly. On the other hand, if you are immersed in very dense energies—with your consciousness here, your activity here, and you having to work with emotional energies—you will have to make an effort. Can you understand that? You will then be pushing a truck uphill. You can withstand that for a certain period of time; afterward, you begin to wear down. This is why it is good to know that what we learn is not exactly reality. What we learn is convenience. If we choose a person as a guru, he has to take care of you with his wisdom. But not only with his wisdom: he also has to serve you. It does not work that way.