Summary
Depression is an overall loss of vitality that can be overcome, depending on its type and severity. Exercise, friendships, and the arts get the energies of the chakras moving and make attunement to spiritual harassment more difficult. Having a goal and also working for others give life meaning. During bereavement, moving forward can help overcome mild depression; not accepting death can make it chronic. Seeking professional help is important for understanding the difficulties and preventing the depression from worsening. If the person resists seeking this help, having a serious conversation with them and inviting them to lectures, without pressuring them, can pave the way.
Source transcript
In bioenergy, people practice exercises and body postures that help break down the blockages caused by repressed emotions. Repressed emotions settle in the muscles, and we begin to experience pain. These exercises are very healthy and can be practiced by people of all ages. So you do not need to worry: "Oh, I am already quite old."
When someone tells me, "I am sixty years old, I am fifty years old, I am seventy years old," I reply, "If that were all, you would be very young. You are about three hundred thousand years old, two hundred thousand years old, one hundred thousand." It is something like that. We are all consciousnesses that have been here on Earth for a long time. A person is born already one hundred thousand years old. No one is born one year old, one month old; it is nothing like that. So what we need to do is go on with our lives, working hard, because this opportunity for reincarnation is very important to us. Let us make the most of it.
Someone asks: "I have had several episodes of depression, but without knowing it was depression. I thought it was a difficult phase because of day-to-day problems. During my last, more severe episode, I found out it was depression. Then I received treatment and got better. But I hear that depression has no cure, that it always comes back. So I wanted to hear your opinion, Moisés: will I have depression for the rest of my life?"
There are several reasons for you to cultivate your depression and several reasons to get out of it. Some reasons for cultivating your depression are these: do nothing, stay idle at home. Do not engage in any activity or have any social contact. That way, your depression keeps getting better and better, more depressive. Speak ill of others, harbor anger and hatred. Be cruel to others, feel angry every day. Keep thinking that someone else is to blame for your unhappiness; we always think that. Do not play any sports, do not do any sports at all, do not go for a walk, do nothing. Make excuses for doing nothing.
You will be creating a magnificent depression. And this depression has one good thing about it: you keep carrying it from one life to the next. It is something you create that only makes things worse. Or, conversely, do you want to get out of your depression? Do you want to be sure that you will develop differently?
Depression is an overall loss of vitality. You become completely drained of vitality. When you do everything we have discussed, you are creating depression. Now, play sports, have a circle of friends, talk to people, have a purpose in life. Seek personal growth and good reading material; that is important. Choose quality reading, not superficial reading that leads nowhere and does nothing but stroke the ego. Have at least one friend you can trust and tell about the things that bother you, someone you can share with and also listen to. Engage in an artistic activity, such as painting; learn to paint. That is very healthy. Imagine yourself painting a picture, looking at those colors.
Then you say: "But I paint very badly." The point is not whether you paint badly or well; the point is to paint, to make something with your hands, to do something. We keep improving. How many people start painting and say, "My goodness, this is very enjoyable, and I am getting better"? Read a lot, try to watch things that are good for you, go for walks, do some activity, go swimming, do anything.
Then you begin to emerge from the depressive process because you are getting your energies moving. These energies increase the activity of the chakras because they have to take in more energy and exteriorize more energy, and you enter a process of greater energetic freedom. Spiritual harassment likes people who stay still, stagnant water. When you move, the harassment cannot tune in to all the frequencies you are working with. That is why I say: paint, swim. That way, you are working with the energy of the various chakras you have, which are different frequencies. Harassment wants a person who only operates on one frequency. So the person stays there, just doing the same little thing over and over, which leads to imprisonment. And that imprisonment is precisely depression.
As for the question about having depression for the rest of your life, no one needs to have any illness for the rest of their life. Depression is a pathology, an emotional difficulty, and these difficulties can indeed be resolved. It depends on your depression, for example, whether it is reactive, mild, moderate, or severe depression.
If it is mild depression, you will be able to handle it, especially since it sometimes goes away on its own. Suddenly, you experience bereavement and enter a depressive process. Then you work through it by living, continuing with your tasks, relating to other people, and understanding it all. As a result, you come out of the depression; it stays in the past and is resolved. This is reactive depression, which almost resolves itself.
Of course, we can also turn mild depression into chronic depression. Some people, when they lose a relative, put photographs of that person all over the house and in the car, and carry photographs in their pockets. They only talk about the deceased and refuse to accept death at all. Then that grief becomes pathological grief. The person does not want to face the reality of death, and then there is no way forward. They can turn what could have been mild depression into a more complicated form of depression.
But we can indeed resolve our depression. We have to seek help. Women seek help for depression more often than men. There are some statistics, and it seems to me that for every four women who seek help, one man does. Only one man seeks help. Only one man seeks help. A man becomes very self-conscious, thinking: "No, this will work itself out, I can handle it." That is not how it works. If you do not take care of your depression, it becomes something more complicated.
Inside us, in our unconscious processes, depression keeps taking root, and you do not notice it. Every new event in your life that is not so positive can add to the depressive process. So it is good for us to take care of our physical and emotional health. This is very important.
We have to take care of this body. It is a tool we have to produce growth and evolution here on Earth. As far as possible, obviously, we have to take care of the body. This tool was given to us by universal consciousness: "Look, work down there, manage on your own, evolve. And take care of it." Take care of it, and you will become a free consciousness, without conflicts, without problems, without anger, with a heart full of love, so that you can truly build things not only for yourself but for everyone around you.
If someone says about depression, "Look, it has no cure," this is how I see it, Fátima: if there is anything on this planet that has no cure, it is not worth going on. There is a solution to everything. It is a matter of knowing, of understanding. There are things in human history that, two centuries ago, no one knew what to do about, and the person would die. A flu virus, for example: today you take a pill and the problem is solved. So there is a solution to everything.
It is a matter of knowing more, having more knowledge, seeking alternatives, and making our lives better and better, without thinking that someone else is to blame, without thinking that life is to blame, without thinking that God is to blame. We ourselves are to blame for our unhappiness. We are our own heirs. Think about that. So let us get to work: roll up your shirt sleeves, and let us work to be very happy.
Do as Francis of Assisi did. In fact, Francis of Assisi did not even have sleeves to roll up because of those old-fashioned clothes. But he really put his hands to work and worked very hard; he did not care about anything else: "I am going to work, I am going to build." It is good to talk about depression without depression. Without depression. Francis lived with his parents, and it seems to me that at a time when he was not doing what his father wanted, his father said: "Look, leave." Things were very strict back then.
Then Francis ended up in the ruins of St. Damian Monastery. Everything was in disrepair, and there was only a crucifix in the monastery. The story goes that Christ on the crucifix spoke to him: "Are you serving, or do you want to serve, the Lord or the servant?" The servant would be us here on Earth, and the Lord would be God. But I did some research and discovered something: in fact, while Francis was in there, he heard someone say: "Rebuild St. Damian." That was exactly what he heard. He heard nothing different. He said: "All right, now I have a purpose in life: to rebuild St. Damian." And he began laying stone upon stone, and St. Damian Monastery was built.
The people building St. Damian at St. Damian Farm in Morungaba, in the Amparo region, are very happy because it is a spiritual undertaking, not only for us but for all the people who live in the region. St. Damian has the role of helping people in the region: through the volunteer help of doctors, dentists, psychologists, and physical education teachers, we will guide the children and help people as much as possible. Notice how the idea goes beyond the limits of what we want for ourselves and reaches other people.
A female listener says: "My husband has suffered from depression for a long time. I insist that he get treatment, but he stubbornly says he will get better. After a while, he really does get well, but he went into an episode about five months ago and has only been getting worse. He does not lie prostrate in bed doing nothing: he goes to work every day, but he cannot sleep. When he gets home, he only has enough energy to lie on the couch with a distant look in his eyes. He cries over nothing, for no reason, and has stopped eating. He has already lost about ten kilograms. He absolutely refuses to see a doctor. What can I do to help? Please give me some guidance."
This is complicated. Men are very resistant when it comes to depression. A man says: "No, I can resolve this, it is just a passing annoyance, I am nervous, I have a problem at work," and ends up neither taking action nor realizing that this is serious. The listener said he is getting worse. There are countless emotional factors: family relationships, the relationship between a man and a woman, relationships with children, with work, and personal dissatisfaction with life. Imagine: sometimes people cannot carry out the plans they had as children or teenagers and see time passing. Then they say: "Oh my, I will not be able to do everything I wanted."
I think it would be good for you to have a serious conversation with him and say: "Look, here is the situation: you had better take action." Another thing you can do is invite him to attend lectures that might clarify things a little and give him some understanding of this. Sometimes a person attends a lecture and says: "My goodness, I did not know it was like that." A light comes on. When a family member says something, it carries no weight, but when you hear someone from outside the family say it, it is different. Perhaps that is a path you can follow.
Another possibility is to take him to lectures. There are various venues and speakers who discuss very interesting things that have to do with reviewing life and working on self-improvement. Look for options and keep offering them to him. Do not try to force him to go: "You have to go." That is not how it works. Invite him, say: "Let us go there. I am going, and I am enjoying it." Tell him how pleased you are; perhaps he will feel motivated to go. We have a habit of saying: "You have to go. I am inviting you, and you will not go."
Then you keep arguing with the person, and they become resentful. It goes like this: "Look, I am going to a very pleasant place, and I have learned a lot. Come with me, keep me company. I would like so much for you to come with me to keep me company. I miss you." It is different, it is different. Then he goes, listens to the lecture, and suddenly manages to understand this process better.
A female listener asks: "I have a twenty-two-year-old son who has a very hard time getting up in the morning. If we let him, he spends the day in bed. He is always missing commitments. He had to switch to evening college classes because he never went to class. It is a struggle every day to get this boy out of bed. His father argues with him, but it does no good. Could this be happening because he has depression? How can I bring up this subject with my son to help him?"
A twenty-two-year-old young man is having trouble facing reality; he does not get up to go out and face life. You have to look at what is happening in your relationship with your husband, how this young man was raised, how he developed within this family. Seek help. Seek help from a professional. Take this to a psychologist, a psychoanalyst, a psychiatrist, someone who can hear the details from you and better understand what is happening, and who can also listen to the young man, because he is the person who matters. Then perhaps you can get some help.
Questions raised by this material
- Can depression be cured?
- What habits can make depression worse?
- How does getting the energies moving help overcome depression?
- How can grief lead to chronic depression?
- How can I help someone with depression who refuses treatment?
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How to cite
Esagüi, M. (2020, April 8). Depression [Audio podcast episode]. Center for Consciousness Studies. https://centrodeestudos.org/en/library/depression-2/





