Version and Reality — Spotify from the CEC Library

A listener asked: "In your program on August 27, I heard you say this: if you seek energies higher than your own, you will feel ill; is that correct?" I will reflect on what was heard because the statement was part of a response to a listener who wanted to know how our aura behaves when we sit beside a stranger. The listener stated that affinity with dense energies, which she called genesic, is easier and that affinity with higher energies is rarer. I will explain briefly so that you understand. We are all on planet Earth and experience more dense energies than subtle ones. Subtle energy must be generated by the higher chakras, the heart chakra, and the chakras above it. However, we do not have sufficient ability to generate this type of energy.

We live on a troubled planet, where you compete, where you have to find a place to park your car, where you have to make money, where another person sometimes irritates you, and where you have a serious problem—the problem of time—and have to rush somewhere. You are always agitating yourself much more than you should. You do not have a peaceful, stable, and calm life. That is not how we live. We live in a hectic world, where everything we have built is something that apparently is not leading us toward the healthy part of being but toward our confusion, the disorganization of the ego, and everything else.

We end up in a condition in which we have no time to see what is around us—which relates to today's topic—because we create acceptable versions of the world instead of getting in touch with reality, with what is actually happening. We talk about the things we believe are happening and do not perceive what is truly occurring.

As a result, we end up with an emotional context that produces dense energies, making us more reactive. Human beings do not stop to observe what is happening, talk, or resolve issues. Every situation stirs all the emotional charge they have accumulated, making each person the sum of fears, difficulties, and turmoil; when something happens externally, the person exteriorizes all of it. The person does not display peace or tranquility or perceive reality, but only what the person is. Thus, the energies we exteriorize are denser than they should be.

If you want a good example, go to a peaceful place with a beach, vegetation, and very few people. When I say very few people, I mean a very small number, somewhere you can live for a month. By living there for that time, you will discover the emotional charge I am discussing. When you return, you will say, "Goodness, it is complicated," because you will enter the emotional lump. All these human beings exteriorize emotional energies, and the air becomes overloaded. When I speak of the air, I mean everything around us.

And these dense energies will affect us one way or another. So much so that, when you enter an environment, you often immediately feel unwell; you begin to feel a headache or back pain because the place is charged with dense emotions. The chakras that process this are your lower chakras, and these chakras lead to a movement that is not very pleasant. It is easier to have an affinity with denser energies; in that sense, I am explaining this to you, because most people work with this type of energy. Now, how are we going to relate to consciousnesses that have very subtle, highly elevated energy and energetic stability? How are we going to do that? It is not so easy.

Suppose that you have evolved greatly and have reached the top. When I speak of evolution, I mean the level of consciousness we possess. Our consciousness is still very primitive and limited; no matter how much we mature, we do not have enough knowledge to create a space in our lives much larger than it is. This larger space encompasses everyone. Therefore, if you want to speak of love, you will need to be in a different condition, see the other person, and manage to understand them; otherwise, it will not be possible to live in a shared way.

From that point, what we can do is exchange dense energies. If you were highly evolved, would you want to enter this troubled world, full of energies that we cannot even digest, and remain among them? If I were a highly evolved consciousness, I would have achieved this through effort and would have left this cauldron—the cauldron of emotions and of conflicting and contradictory things. Obviously, I would not want to return here. Therefore, if someone from here called you, the last thing you would want to do would be to return; that would cause you great suffering.

We need this physical body because it truly acts as a shock absorber for everything around us. If someone becomes angry with you, you may even experience a stomachache, but the body certainly alleviates a great deal. If you do not have the physical body to protect you, you will experience a direct impact on your spiritual body, and the pain will then be intense. If a highly evolved consciousness wants to do something or be among us here, it will use a physical body, at least for a time, to try to undertake the work, the path here on Earth. But without the body, it will be at a level at which it has no contact with any spirit because the level is different and does not permit contact.

Moisés Esagüi, I heard that when we are on the astral plane, we can see the entire spiritual reality that we do not perceive in the physical body, such as the aura, chakras, and spirits. I remembered an experience I had that I was certain was an astral projection because it was very real: I left my body, saw my bedroom and my body, but I do not remember seeing spiritual companions, my chakras, or anything similar. Why does this happen? Could I have denied the things on that plane myself?

You are telling the truth. I will explain: we project in the astral body as we are, in the spiritual condition we are in. One cannot think that, upon leaving the body and arriving on the other side, one will become highly evolved. The more primitive one's thoughts are and the more filled with beliefs one is, the less one will see. You will see only what you accept. There are things we do not accept. Imposed beliefs and conditioning prevent us from having a broader view.

And you will perceive this in people here on Earth, in the people around you. You will see that some people are more flexible and good-humored and experience their relationship with the world through something extremely important: common sense. Why? Because if you want to live on this planet by rules and laws, you will be in a condition that will not allow you to see many things. We place these beliefs as a dividing line between reality and versions and remain on the side of the versions; reality will not be seen.

You must certainly have denied those things. We see but do not perceive. How many times does someone arrive and say, "Look, your son is using drugs." And the person responds, "Oh, what is that? He really is not." Everyone sees it. Only you do not. This happens when we have other types of experiences. The astral projection experience is the continuation of our consciousness in the physical body.

An email received recounts the experience of someone who completed an astral projection course the day before:

"Religion has never instructed people. It has always practiced and will continue to practice the culture of terror, sin, and fear, forcing human beings to do what is supposedly good in order not to receive punishment from heaven, from God. There is no punishment. Evolution is the only certainty in life. I will learn not to do evil, not out of fear of being punished, but because I have learned what is right and correct. By doing good, I will improve and become a better being. The only punishment I will receive will be the one I impose on my consciousness because sin consists of remaining in ignorance, obscurity, and the haze of foolishness.

Life is not composed only of four elements. Our body is an agglutination of all of them, forming, together with the spirit, soul, mind—or any other name that may be created for this part without mass or form—the fifth element: without barriers, borders, or fears." The other day, I dreamed about my maternal grandmother, who died two years ago from a degenerative disease. She was ill for a long time and no longer recognized anyone around her. In my dream, she was extremely well, lucid, and good-humored, which was not the case when she was alive. I wondered whether, when a person dies, they become happier and more lucid on the other side. Is that what happens?

Today's topic is reality and versions. What you are recounting may be a wish of yours. We continue to be what we are here. We often constitute ourselves with pathologies and emotional difficulties; when we lose this physical prosthesis, we think that we have cleared away everything we did on Earth. It does not work that way. You continue to be what you are. It is a matter of time; perhaps one needs to die to understand this. Sometimes I joke with people during lectures: if everyone in this room dies, some people will certainly not know where they are because they will be at a level where the same people who are here in the room will not be with them. We remain at different spiritual levels. We encounter what we are.

It depends on what she went through. The fact that a person suffered greatly does not mean that the person is well or good. She suffered because of ignorance, a lack of knowledge, and a lack of enlightenment. What makes us suffer is precisely ignorance, and we need to free ourselves from it. You may have created a version of your maternal grandmother. This does not mean that you should not love or respect her. Everyone around us deserves our care, our respect, and the best we can do. That is the purpose of life.