Interview with Moisés: Astral Projection, Clairvoyance, Healing, Hypnosis, Laying on of Hands, Karma — YouTube from the CEC Library

Moisés Esagüi, born in Manaus, Amazonas, in 1950, is a spiritualist. At age 7, he had his first fully lucid astral projection experience: he left the body, floated through the house, observed people close to him, passed through trees, and spoke with a neighbor who was also projected. The experience was involuntary, but it marked his life.

He is dedicated to studying astral projection experiences and gives lectures on the subject throughout Brazil. He has faced skepticism, especially from people of different religions, because each belief carries its own background. Within spirituality, sharing these experiences is challenging because they may seem invented or inaccessible to others. A team conducts research and tests on astral projection. Out-of-body projection is an altered state of consciousness.

Moisés learned to explain the phenomenon more calmly. In general, his audience consists of spiritualists who accept this knowledge, so questioning is less frequent, but it still occurs. In São Paulo, there is a practice group with theoretical preparation and weekly astral projection practices.

They have obtained good results, including with skeptical people from various religions who joined the team. Everyone has the capacity for astral projection and can develop it. Astral projection is physiological and occurs every day. Many have experienced the sensation of falling when waking, which is a return from astral projection. Everyone has these experiences, but with little lucidity or no recall.

Every year, Moisés visits Uberaba because of a significant experience. At the Sacred Ground of the World Messianic Church in São Paulo, he met a person from Uberaba; they talked, and he began seeing images related to her. Surprisingly, she brought another 12 or 13 people, and he practiced clairvoyance with them. He was invited to give lectures about spirituality in Uberaba, which he does every year. The interviewer says his lectures in Uberaba are part of a strong marketing appeal tied to a commitment to Chico Xavier.

At first, Moisés did not accept Chico Xavier. When he was young, he thought Chico's mediumistic abilities were unusual. But at age 45, he wanted to work with him. During an astral projection, he encountered Chico's helpers, who said that Chico's work was very different from his and that he could not collaborate with him. One year later, during another projection, he encountered Chico and other spirits. Chico said that he would be present in new work that Moisés would begin. The following day, he met a person at Sacred Ground who took him to Uberaba. Moisés records all of his astral projection experiences.

Now that Chico Xavier is in the spiritual world, they continue fulfilling their part. Moisés attended gatherings at which Chico was physically present five or six times. Before meeting Chico physically, Moisés told a friend about his first astral projection experience with him and showed him everything he had written. The friend commented that the number of spiritual helpers around Chico looked like the Mangueira Samba School. There really were about 3,000 or 4,000 spiritual helpers with him. Chico Xavier helped countless people with goodwill and tireless dedication, which produced a great spiritual result. He dedicated himself to others for 90 years. Chico Xavier has more than 400 books.

From a seven-year-old boy who did not believe in him, Moisés became someone who shares this spiritual knowledge and belief in everything Chico did. The problem of drugs is serious, and Amor-Exigente has helped many people. About a month ago, a one-year-old boy at the Einstein hospital in São Paulo had constant seizures. His parents sought out Moisés, and when he looked at the child, he perceived that the boy had died from 33 stab wounds in a past life and had been dependent on drugs. The parents confirmed that an uncle had been murdered that way. They began spiritual work, but the level of difficulty is high because drug use affects everyone around the user.

The spiritual explanation for involvement with drugs is not viewed as repayment for past lives but as an inheritance from oneself. We are the result of everything we did before and must assume this responsibility in order to grow. Involvement with drugs begins with emotional and family problems, and spiritual harassment participates in this process. Emotional problems may become physical illnesses, such as drug addiction, which is recognized by the World Health Organization. Spirituality can help, but this depends on the level of involvement and the person's willingness. The person with the addiction often does not want to be helped, making the process difficult.

Moisés is a communicator, hypnologist, and therapist. Hypnosis is used to reach altered states of consciousness and assist in consciousness projection. They also conduct past-life regression experiments and simple conditioning, such as stopping smoking. Hypnosis is used as a tool for regression, taking a person back to the womb and then crossing into previous lives, recording everything that is said to verify consistency over time. The practice goes beyond what one imagines. Moisés writes down people's past lives through astral projection and checks whether this information is accurate.

The goal is to allow people to report their experiences without fear of exposing themselves. When someone recounts their experiences, everything is written down. If the information matches, there is a point of support. Otherwise, they continue experimenting to see what happens. Anyone can undergo hypnosis and regression, but some people have strong resistance to hypnosis. When someone does not want it, the process becomes difficult. Most people, however, can be hypnotized.

Knowing previous lives is considered not only interesting but necessary for personal evolution. Moisés has a personal experience involving his father: he had a projection and saw his father being murdered by a gunshot below the arm. As a child, he asked his father to remove his shirt, and there was indeed an entry and exit mark from the bullet. Today, his father also has out-of-body projection experiences.

It is possible to carry physical marks from past lives. In highly emotional situations, these marks may be transferred from one life to another through the spiritual body. We carry our most intense emotions and memories through the etheric double to the spiritual body and, consequently, to the physical body.

Regression and hypnosis can help overcome trauma. Regression can locate a situation of intense emotion and conflict in a past life. By learning what occurred, the person releases the emotion and can resolve the situation. The interviewer notes that everyone can experience astral projection, provided they are sufficiently developed. Astral projection, when done correctly, is beneficial because it brings direct knowledge of the spiritual world. When going out onto the astral plane, it is possible to see deceased relatives, visit any place on the planet, access information, and help people through spiritual assistance. Negative practice is difficult because it involves the lower chakras and a high emotional charge, which prevents information from being brought back to the body.

Working correctly, exercising evolution, and maintaining ethics are essential to lucid and pleasant experiences. Regarding epilepsy, people with this condition have an overloaded central nervous system and strong emotional contexts, allowing spiritual harassment. Seizures occur because of this harassment. They work with laying on of hands, using the pulse of the heart chakra, and have obtained good results. Karma is an emotional process from past and current lives. It is divided into egokarma, group karma, and polikarma. Egokarma involves personal emotional conflicts such as depression and shyness. Group karma refers to family difficulties, and polikarma to acceptance of the world and other races. Overcoming these karmas is essential to growth.

The work is not related to apometry, although they have given lectures at places that practice it. Laying on of hands, similar to a Spiritist energy pass, involves the exteriorization of energies captured from immanent energy. They use the pulse of the heart chakra, a specific area of study. Chico Xavier did not report conscious astral projections, but he did have them. His focus was serving the community. Moisés encountered him during a lucid astral projection, subsequently confirmed in conversation. Moisés has clairvoyance and precognitions but does not use them indiscriminately. He prefers to benefit communities and help people, avoiding superficial needs of the ego. Life is not entirely written; it is possible to change destiny by changing behavior and perceptions.

Depression is a common problem addressed in the therapeutic work. They focus on the spiritual and emotional aspects to reorganize the person. Severe depression may involve spiritual harassment, creating cycles of highs and lows. Changes in behavior and in one's relationship with family are fundamental to recovery. Those who transmit energy passes must replenish their energies. Passes consume energy because each person carries many family members in need of energy, and a pass can reach 10, 15, or 20 people, depending on the person. Symptoms of energy depletion include pain and tingling. Receiving energy passes is recommended for recovery.