Can spirituality be proven? — Spotify from the CEC Library

I received a question about why spirituality cannot be proven. The question is: if spirituality really exists, or if spirits actually exist, why has a scientific experiment that believers could use as proof never been conducted? With regard to astral projections, could someone not use their knowledge to appear so that others could see them? Or perhaps search for something in a particular place while a group observes?

If anything intrigues me about this much-discussed spirituality, it is precisely that. Do you believe in God? We believe in God, but we do not see God. We believe in Christ and in all the masters we venerate. I see some reason in this question: we need to be able to prove it. Spirituality cannot simply be talked about—it has to be tested and proven to the extent we are able. The Center for Consciousness Studies (CEC) was founded with this intention. When someone asks whether we could appear for others to see, I say that we conduct experiments at CEC along those lines. When you manage to carry out an experiment at this level, the people who see what you saw become convinced—there is no way not to be convinced.

We do astral projection work; people come back able to recall what happened, which is important. We provide a great deal of spiritual assistance, and the people at CEC make energies available to carry out this assistential work. A spirituality that we want to treat merely as a showcase makes no sense. I think I am only passing through; my time will soon run out, and I need to reflect. Every day, I think about how people at CEC will continue to benefit from this knowledge and become better. There is no reason to go through life and, on the last day, look back without having done anything.

At CEC, we have proven materialization experiences—that is true and was confirmed by two or three people who saw me in one place while I was elsewhere. I say this with complete sincerity: this is nothing. I have no power. I believe I will need to work very hard to grow a little, and it seems we never arrive. We truly are nothing. We are in an immense universe about which we know absolutely nothing. I have done astral projection work every day for 53 years, writing everything down. I realize that when someone sees us, it is wonderful because we feel we have achieved something tangible for the people who perceived it.

In one case, two people saw me. In the other, one person saw me, and another was in the place I would have had to pass through if I had left by the door I was supposed to use, because there was no other option. The person came looking for me, and the person in the other room said, "Look, he did not come through here; he was not here." Why? Because he is upstairs in his room, writing. I was conducting an astral projection experiment.

I do not think it is possible to do this in public. To conduct an experiment like this, one needs a group of people who disturb the environment as little as possible with their anxiety and their inner desire for the other person to prove it. We carry doubt within us. These energies wear us down. It is therefore better to have a group of people who are completely calm and want to help prove it. They do not have a negative expectation of failure or anything similar. This expectation is within us, consciously or unconsciously.

Therefore, if someone appears on television or in public, they will face difficulties, especially because it makes no sense to want to display things that all of us need to discover one day. We have already managed to conduct activities at CEC such as searching for something in a particular place while a group observes. I conducted this experiment: I stayed alone in a room, lying down; the people put an object away, I got up, opened the door, and found it.

You may think you have power, but you do not. We have no power whatsoever; this is the result of work. We need to be better than we are. Sometimes you succeed, and other times you do not. That is how it works: when you make one hundred attempts, you succeed two or three times but fail ninety-seven. We should therefore work hard to learn more about spirituality because, otherwise, we remain in a primitive spirituality, waiting for someone else to do things for us. Individual effort, although essential, is often not made.

It is extremely important to work and bring these matters into the realm of knowledge rather than mysticism or ego. The first thing we emphasize at CEC is that a person must set ego aside. If I make a mistake, I must admit it: I really did make a mistake. I do not need to be the best; I only need to be someone who works. We keep working, and that is how we will continue after this life. This is fundamental if we are to grow and become better.

We talk about honesty and want to be better. From the bottom of my heart, I believe that doing what is right is the most important thing because, one day, you will discover that wrong actions do not lead us where we want to go. It is therefore better to do everything correctly. There will be times when we fail and are judged. Many people think that we are deceiving or persecuting others, but that is not how it works. The world needs to be disarmed so that we can follow the best path.

I think the most sophisticated technology on this planet is us. Write this down: you are the most sophisticated technology that exists; you can go beyond everything we consider technology. Human beings can do this; we need to learn more.

You will be a better person for yourself because we can only be better for ourselves. Each person must take care of themselves, and when we work on what we are, we benefit the environment. Do you have any physical or emotional difficulty, any problem you need to resolve?

Laying on of hands first affects our etheric double, vitalizing the body. That is why you feel better when you receive laying on of hands. Another thing that happens is that those spiritual harasser consciousnesses ultimately move away because of the energy circulation that takes place.

The person performing the laying on of hands circulates energies, and the people receiving them do as well. As a result, the circulated energies increase the person's aura, creating a very good, strong energetic field. A nearby spiritual consciousness ends up losing energy to this circulation. If you are highly vitalized, the consciousness has to leave because it cannot couple with you. A spiritual consciousness can steal energy from you only if it manages to couple with you; if you are well vitalized, however, it cannot remain nearby because you have command over your energies.

My mother had a very high level of clairvoyance, and perhaps I developed many things because of everything I learned from her through our daily exchange. My mother was an immensely important person in my life. My father was a good man, but my mother influenced me tremendously; she was very upright, very honest, and could perceive things at a distance.

If I were somewhere, she would suddenly call me and describe the entire environment. It was fantastic, because I wondered: how can she see these things? I was young and saw shadows and some spirits; when I began seeing and she learned that I could see, we began playing with each other with the things we perceived. Clairvoyance, however, is not something that is taught simply by snapping one's fingers, issuing a decree, and making it happen. You have to work. The study of clairvoyance involves a great deal about light, contrast, and much more.

I remember one day when I was on Clodovil's program and we began talking about this subject. I saw his mother beside him, but I could not see her clearly. I explained that the very bright lighting would have to be reduced. He lowered the lights, which increased the contrast and allowed me to see better. Everything is therefore related to lighting, our visual perception, and accepting the things we have in life and in the spiritual world. We reject and deny many things. I believe we should follow a more open path. Healing through laying on of hands exists.