Summary
After being seen elsewhere while he was lying down, Moisés shifted the focus of his research and began practicing materialization, transferring energy from his physical body to wherever his consciousness traveled during astral projections. Other people saw him at CEC and in other countries. This practice must serve a useful purpose and must not involve seeking power. Spiritual work requires effort to overcome limitations and reexamine one's behavior on Earth, which includes dealing with conscious and unconscious blocks.
Source transcript
A listener asked me to speak about materializations and experiences I have had. As a researcher and student, I believe that the first step to seeing something is to open the mind to questioning. If we do not accept anything, how can we accomplish anything in our lives? In adolescence, I read in a magazine a documentary report about Hitler, who had an interest in esotericism and, despite not having a college degree, was part of the Thule Group, known for mystical practices. I read that two magicians from that group were arrested but teleported out of the prison, even though everything was locked—something considered impossible. This account of dematerialization and rematerialization intrigued me, and I decided to investigate how it worked.
I already carried out lucid astral projections and had a good level of lucidity. For me, those experiences were pure energy. I reflected on how to dematerialize the body and materialize it in another place. I noticed that people who consume a lot of meat have the base chakra exteriorizing dense energy, which can produce effects such as poltergeist. I decided to spend a month eating only meat in order to experiment with this.
During that period, I tried to move objects without touching them, focusing on a matchbox. After about 15 days of attempts, the box fell without my touching it, but I suspected that the movement of my hand might have produced wind. I continued trying for another three or four days, now from a greater distance, and the box fell again. I then concluded that I was beginning to understand the relationship between subtle and dense energies. The idea was to reduce the subtlety of my physical body in order to dematerialize and materialize in another place.
Despite nights of attempts and changes in diet, nothing seemed to happen. However, I did not get frustrated, because I believed it was necessary to continue until something happened. One day, during an astral projection, someone saw me in another place while I was lying in bed. That made me think that perhaps the key was to leave the body and take my body through the astral dimension.
When I am out of the body, my consciousness is displaced and I transfer the energy of my physical body to another place. This explains the times when I was seen materialized. I changed the focus of my research and began to practice this technique. People began to see me: first, one person was certain that they saw me; then another saw me near Hospital das Clínicas. I had similar experiences in other countries, where I knew people were actually seeing me. In a square in Madrid, Spain, a little girl pointed me out to her mother, and I knew I was being seen.
I returned to my body with a strong impact, realizing that I was on the right path. However, it is essential that this have a use. It is not a matter of seeking power, because that idea is primitive and unhappy. When we no longer have the physical body, we will be with the same consciousnesses we are already part of while in this physical body, without the protection of the body. I continued experimenting, including with people close to me. At CEC, people saw me in different places, confirming these experiences, since it was impossible for me to be in two places at the same time.
I hope that you fulfill your wishes, but effort and the overcoming of limits are necessary. All of us have blocks that, if removed, allow us to flow in the universe. This spiritual work is intimately linked to our behavior on Earth, which needs to be reviewed in order to resolve both the conscious part and the unconscious one—which hinders us without our knowing its origin.
Questions raised by this material
- How does materialization during astral projection work?
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How to cite
Esagüi, M. (2017, June 5). Response Letter - (9) - On materializations [Video]. Center for Consciousness Studies. https://centrodeestudos.org/en/library/response-letter-9-on-materializations/





