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Narrated by Moisés Esagüi13 min read

Reflecting on behaviors and neediness guides the search for your own path; helping outside the body requires knowledge of energies.

The Search for One's Own Path and Astral Projection
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Summary

Finding your own path involves questioning dependence on groups and seeking knowledge that helps you reflect on behaviors and neediness and become more mature. This knowledge should also guide the use of mediumship to benefit other people without inflating the ego. After years of seeking pleasure through astral projections, Moisés realized that he could use them to help others. This assistance requires knowledge of energies, chakras, and the vehicles of manifestation of consciousness, along with the lucidity to understand the environment as well as see it. It may involve intuition, balancing environments, and the exteriorization of energy.

Source transcript

A listener asks: "I identified with a Romani group and started going there. Could it be because I have always been somewhat nomadic, or because I am truly maladjusted in life?"

First, you need to see whether you have been pursuing one search after another. Do you keep looking for places to go, with a new option always coming along? Then you say: "Now this is the place where I am going to sort out my life." Another place comes along, and you say: "I have found myself here." Some people do this, Fátima: "Now it will work, now it will work!" A person finds a place and believes the solution is there. After a month, that place is no longer the solution. Someone comes along and says: "I am going to a wonderful place; you will find yourself."

You need to see whether you fit this pattern of a "butterfly seeker": you do not really know what you want, and you are trying to adjust, to find yourself. It may be a spiritual search; it may be a search for identity: you are looking for yourself in places that can tell you who you are. I think that is what you need to examine. Sometimes we do not know who we are, go somewhere, and say: "This is the place." Why? Because people say things you wanted to hear. That is something to examine.

You ask: "Could it be because I am somewhat nomadic?" A nomad is someone who keeps moving from place to place, but I do not think we carry this trait from one life to another so easily. I also do not think being a nomad is a life choice. I think that when you are unable to stay in one place and establish yourself there, you begin going from one place to another. I am not criticizing anyone who is a nomad. Some people are nomads because they are truly searching, and that is all right.

You ask: "Or because I am truly maladjusted in life?" I think that question of yours is the answer to what you are saying: you are questioning yourself. So I will offer a suggestion about everything you are bringing up. Consider three questions that I think are important for you to evaluate. The first question to ask yourself is: do you keep looking for places that provide answers to your distress? See whether this question corresponds to what you are asking.

The second question is: do you go anywhere that provides enlightening knowledge and makes you reflect on your behaviors and neediness? Pay attention: a place that provides enlightening knowledge. It is not flattery or that sort of consolation; it is something that makes you reflect on your behaviors and neediness. If you think about this second question, perhaps you will discover something within yourself that makes you say: "Goodness, that is exactly what I am doing." See whether that is the case.

The third question is: what have you been doing in life to truly mature? I repeat, because this one hurts: what have you been doing in life to truly mature? I think it is important to examine this, because most of us end up behaving in very, very childish ways throughout our lives. We do not have the inner resources to handle our own lives, who we are, our inner conflicts. We become dependent on family, on a brother, a mother, a father, a boyfriend, a girlfriend, a friend. We remain dependent.

We also become dependent on the searches we undertake. You are talking about a Romani group: you go somewhere and think that is the place. You remain dependent for a while, then you go somewhere else and become dependent on it. Each time you go to one of these places, it is an attempt to find an answer to who you are. I think the point is not to keep looking for places to give you answers. It is to seek answers in places that offer clarity, answers that will hurt a little. You will ask: "And where do I find a place like that, one that offers clarity?" These places do not flatter the ego. They will say things that will upset you.

Fátima comments: "A new year is beginning; it would be worthwhile for people to take another look at themselves." And do you know something, Fátima? The Christmas season, a time of major celebrations, is when people feel most depressed. There are a few times like this, and listeners can pay attention to that, because I think it sometimes goes unnoticed. When a birthday comes, we have a big celebration. Christmas comes, and everyone has that celebration. No one notices the energy hangover the person is left with.

Notice what happens when your birthday comes and you have that big party. In fact, we throw the party because a stronger emotion clouds our suffering. Consider something interesting: a couple argues, spends the whole day arguing. When night comes, they go to bed, enjoy themselves, and that is it, everything is fine: "My love!" Why? Because you keep overloading yourself with dense energies, and these energies end up in the root chakra. Then you have intercourse with the other person and discharge it all. All that conflict, that difficulty, those differences seemingly disappear. But they remain stored.

Christmas, birthdays, and other festive occasions really are overloaded. Imagine this: the period around your birthday is a time with a great deal of evocation. You are evoked again and again, by the living and by those who have already passed on. Everyone wants to celebrate your birthday, wants to remember you. The result is that evocation causes you to lose energy. This is an experience.

Once, we conducted an experiment at CEC: we chose someone and agreed with the group that everyone would start evoking that person mentally. The person started yawning and feeling weak and said: "Goodness, I am terribly sleepy." You end up losing energy and becoming energetically unbalanced. Then we told the person what we had done and performed an exteriorization of energy. The person said: "Goodness, you caught me!" On your birthday, this is done with very strong emotional charges. Often, people are at the height of their emotion: "My goodness, it is a birthday!" This takes energy. Christmas is the same, and it is like that for everyone.

A listener reports: "I discovered my mediumship some time ago, and I do not know how to work with it. I need to tell a story so you can help me. A friend's father died, and I did not know. He tried to speak to me in a dream, but I did not accept it because I thought he was alive. Later I found out he was dead, and he appeared to me several times, but said nothing. I told her, and he did not appear again. Help me understand."

The listener says that the friend whose father died has attended several of my lectures, but she does not want to give her name. I think any spiritual ability we have must be something we can use and share with the people around us. Our intention and our work are to use our competence for productive things. That is important. So think about this: what can you do with this mediumship of yours? People usually come to me and say: "Moisés, I have mediumistic abilities." I ask: "All right, and what are you going to do with it?"

It feels good to think we have mediumistic abilities and have our ego become hugely inflated. Then you say: "I saw that such and such is going to happen to you. Your father is going to die. I had a dream, and such and such is going to happen." People, this does not get anyone anywhere. If you cannot use this ability in a positive way, saying things that add nothing does not make sense to me.

In fact, I have made countless mistakes in this regard, because people would ask me things, and I would tell them. Then I realized that I was doing something terribly foolish, that it was completely inappropriate. Once, someone came to me and said: "My goodness, Moisés, someone in my family is in this condition, in the hospital." Look at how foolish that was: I said that the person would die on a certain day, and that person died. What a horrible thing I did! That was not good behavior.

If you cannot use this ability entirely for good and bring happiness to someone else, I see no point. I think people need to make use of any potential they have and help others. Whatever skill you have, you can put it to use. This planet is a planet of relationships, and you will have to work with that. Nothing you learn will produce anything good if you do not use it in your relationships. So see whether your mediumship can provide something better than inflating your ego. It feels good to say: "I am a medium." So what if you are a medium, if you are not going to do anything?

If I say: "I am clairvoyant," so what if I am clairvoyant? "I am this, I am that." You are only identifying yourself, and to me, that identification means: "I am this; recognize me." In any case, make use of this ability you have, because I think it is very important. You have an ability to do something: learn more. I do not see how we can make good use of spirituality without having a great deal of knowledge. Enlightening knowledge puts us in a very privileged position to free ourselves from foolish things. So make this ability of yours into something very useful.

Here is what I think, Fátima: if you are going to practice a profession, try to do the best you can. There is no point in having a profession and saying: "I do this," without interest, without motivation, without thinking that this profession can help other people. In any profession, you need to see to what extent you can do your very best and benefit the people around you. This is essential. A doctor must strive to be the best doctor possible. A dentist must be the best they can be. The same goes for a psychologist, psychoanalyst, carpenter, or bricklayer. Do the work well, to a high standard, because it does not matter what you do. I think we really have to do our best.

A listener writes with the subject line "Urgent help": "I urgently need to speak to someone about leaving the body. I walk around the house when everyone is asleep and see everyone, including my body, and I do not know what to do. How can I use this to help people? What can I do with it?"

That is a good question, Fátima, because I have had countless astral projection experiences. My experiences began when I was a boy, seven years old. The first was spectacular, with such great lucidity that it had a powerful impact on my life; it left its mark on me. I write down all my experiences. Today I can leave my body daily, but there was a whole process involved.

The first experience was very powerful, and that feeling of freedom brings great pleasure. At seven years of age, I saw countless things, and my spiritual helpers provided me with a very, very special situation during that projection. I saw my brother sleeping, saw my parents talking, floated out of the house, went through the wall. I did not feel any kind of fear or apprehension, or anything like that. It was very good. I used many sheets of paper to describe in minute detail what happened. Back then, I used bread wrapping paper and wrote with a pencil; I did not have a mechanical pencil as I do today.

I began to want to have that experience every night. At first, since I had no guidance at all, I wanted to have the experience because it was very pleasurable. Over time, as this work matured, after a few years, I began to realize that I could use it to do good things. But I spent a few years leaving my body every night: leaving, leaving, leaving.

You will ask: "Goodness, but did you leave your body every night?" I would spend two, three hours trying to leave. I did not stop. After I had my first experience, I began lying down the same way, performing the whole ritual, doing everything the same, because I did not know what the technique was. And it really did happen. I can only be grateful that this happened, because the helpers helped me a great deal.

If you have out-of-body experiences, it would be very worthwhile to have knowledge to support that spirituality. An out-of-body experience is not just leaving your body and that is it; there is a whole context, Fátima. You need to know about energy, about chakras, about environments, about the people who accompany you, about the people who have passed away. You need to know not only about people who have physical bodies, but also about those who no longer have physical bodies and are part of your family. You need to know about levels of evolution so you know how to deal with all this. Otherwise, how are you going to do anything?

You say: "I walk around the house when everyone is asleep and see everyone, including my body." You need to know what level of lucidity you have when this happens. We can have low, medium, or high lucidity. With high lucidity, you really can see everything very clearly, with a great capacity to understand and discern the things around you. It is not just about seeing, but understanding everything around you. You need to know how the energies that enable this lucidity work.

To deal with this, you will have to learn exactly what an astral projection is and what vehicles of manifestation of consciousness we have. There is more than just the astral body: there is the mental body, and the physical body is also a vehicle of manifestation of consciousness. What is consciousness? How do you shift your consciousness from one vehicle to another? How do you achieve a more lucid astral projection? What might you encounter?

What is the silver cord? What is the etheric double? What is the golden double? There is a great deal you need to know. How do chakras work? How can you accelerate these chakras to make the astral body leave? How do you free yourself from the emotional charges that blur your vision in the spiritual and energetic dimension?

You also need to know how to provide spiritual assistance outside the body to help someone. The listener asks: "How can I use this to help people?" How are you going to do that if you have no knowledge of energy? It is not simply a matter of saying: "I am going to help." You can help through intuition, through balancing the environment, and also through the exteriorization of energy into a particular chakra. You can help during surgery, bring balance to places, talk to other spiritual beings in the environment. So there is a vast scope to it.

Questions raised by this material

  • How can I tell if my spiritual search is helping me mature?
  • Why do I feel drained after Christmas or my birthday?
  • How can I use mediumship responsibly?
  • What do I need to learn to help other people through astral projection?
  • How does lucidity influence perception during astral projection?

Keywords

self-knowledgeout-of-body assistanceemotional maturitymediumshipevocation

How to cite

Esagüi, M. (2020, March 18). The Search for One's Own Path and Astral Projection [Audio podcast episode]. Center for Consciousness Studies. https://centrodeestudos.org/en/library/the-search-for-one-s-own-path-and-astral-projection/