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Narrated by Moisés Esagüi9 min read

Dying does not end suffering: consciousness continues in the astral body; environmental destruction contradicts the idea of planetary regeneration.

Suicide + Planetary Regeneration
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Summary

Suicide does not end suffering: consciousness continues in the astral body with its conflicts, and this is not spiritual punishment. In a burning building with no way out, jumping or staying leads to death. Environmental destruction is at odds with planetary regeneration, and giving dates for the end of the world makes no sense. Evolution begins with self-facing and behavioral change, work that is necessary before helping others. Rituals without enlightenment do not solve problems. Generating love requires knowledge and energy balance, without anger or resentment. The sense of anticipating events may be precognition or clairvoyance, a natural or developed sensitivity.

Source transcript

I would like to know your opinion about people who jump from the top of a burning building, as happened in the Joelma Building fire in São Paulo and at the Twin Towers in New York. In that situation, is suicide acceptable, or would the right thing be to remain in the building and be burned alive? Is there any alternative?

There is no alternative. I understand your question. I think you understand suicide to be something bad. There are different situations. When is suicide unacceptable? I think that if you are experiencing very great emotional suffering, with depression and a great deal of sadness, it is not a matter of someone up there punishing you for taking your own life, as though you should have kept suffering. Therefore, if you are already suffering, dying will not reduce your suffering. You do not die and go to heaven; you are facing processes involving very intense difficulties and conflicts. That is already the problem.

When you lose the physical body, your problem does not go to the cemetery along with the body. It remains with you, the consciousness, which is in another vehicle at that moment: the spiritual vehicle, the astral body, the spiritual body. Thus, your consciousness remains firm and strong despite all the difficulties you have accumulated over various reincarnations.

So there is no such story that the person found rest. For example, a person is bedridden in the hospital and has been there suffering greatly for a year; suddenly, the person dies and someone says: thank goodness they died and found rest. No, they did not die and find rest; they will continue suffering in the same way they suffered before, because things do not happen the way we want. The person does not stop suffering because they lost the physical prosthesis. No, they will continue with the suffering, and that suffering will be the same as what they already had.

When someone is in a building—speaking of the Joelma Building, let me tell you a story. I was down there when the building was on fire. I think it is at Praça da Bandeira, downtown São Paulo, but I do not remember exactly. I truly saw people jumping. It was serious, an extremely painful situation. There is no alternative. Honestly, I see no way out for someone who is in the building, on an upper floor, while the fire consumes the floor below; it is impossible to go down the stairs. The person would have to go up to be rescued. Imagine the temperature and the suffering of someone who cannot get out; they begin to be fried alive. Whether they jump or die there, there is no solution. It makes no sense to say it is better to die in the building to avoid suicide; staying or jumping is equivalent to suicide. Your death is already registered; the period of life ends the moment one enters the building.

I do not see suicide as a crime or as what people commonly say it is. I do not think that someone who dies by suicide will be punished by the spiritual world and remain in the Umbral. That person is already in a very miserable condition; if they were well, they would not die by suicide, and they will continue the suffering they were already experiencing. I think it is a good idea to reflect on suicide, because it is a subject we should discuss broadly in order to understand what it means within a physical existence. Personally, I believe we have a fundamental life path through which to grow, evolve, and make use of every moment; it is essential to take advantage of opportunities, because one cannot do so without enlightenment.

So let me tell you something to reflect on. There is no point in performing rituals, practicing beliefs, and doing everything else that brings neither enlightenment nor change to your life. Something good brings change for the better, not continued repetition, because repetition has no effect at all. We are often atheists; then someone says, "Look, come here and you will change your life because God will help you," and you repeat the same thing. Thus, there is no change whatsoever. When I speak of change, I mean reviewing what we are. You should reflect on yourself, practice self-facing, and write down, for example, all the things you consider not good.

But I will tell you one more thing: perhaps it is a good idea to ask the people around you what they see in you that is not so good, because if you are your own judge, you will certainly acquit yourself at the end of the story, and that is not helpful. So it is a good idea to ask someone else, without needing to argue. If the other person says, "Look, you are this way," that is fine; write it down: "I am this way." Then you will look at the positive things you have, in order to conduct a self-assessment and make consistent changes in what you are.

Our individual evolution: we are our own heirs, so we must truly work hard in order to grow and be happy. That is my idea of evolution. I am deeply involved in seeking to understand life. I participate in a group of dowsers in Americana. I have questions about what we have been discussing: what actually is a process of regeneration our planet is involved in? One that ends on December 21, 2012? Does something begin on the 8th? Is this planet really a place that heals darkness? Am I a member of the new beings of light, responsible for directing and spreading love and wisdom?

Let me tell you what I think about that. First, we address individual growth. We want to help the entire world before we have managed to help and review ourselves. So when you say that you have questions about what we have been discussing and that you participate in a group of dowsers, let me tell you one thing: our world is an emotional planet with many difficulties. If you want to help others, you first need to work on yourself, and you will see that it is not so easy.

The work consists of conducting a coherent review of who you are, based on real, enlightening knowledge rather than consoling knowledge that offers palliatives, because that kind of thing does not make us better. You go somewhere and someone tells you, "You are doing great; your aura is glowing." I respect all religions and lines of work, but I do not see how a problem can be solved without confronting it directly, using knowledge and a reality that lead you away from repetitive, ritualistic practices.

These things lead us nowhere; repetition leads us nowhere. This claim that the world is going to end or that it is undergoing changes is questionable. Do you see us going through a process of regeneration on the planet? We are destroying everything: this great spacecraft that is the planet is deteriorating, forests and seas are disappearing, and the amount of food we could have is also being compromised. Do you think we are going through a regeneration?

Will this result in something positive? What I see is that we are moving against growth, evolution, and common sense. I do not see us moving toward something better. Think about that. Setting dates and making predictions of this kind makes no sense whatsoever. Weeks ago, I heard that extraterrestrials would surround Earth; this was publicized, and people sent me several emails asking whether they would really come to communicate with us, saying that they had come to produce love. Folks, we are the ones who produce love.

Producing love is an arduous task, because one must be love. An emotional gesture is not enough. Love is not so difficult to practice, but practicing it requires balance. Being love is an absolutely balanced and linear condition; one would need to be in a privileged state of knowledge and energetic stability, from the heart chakra to the crown chakra. To be in that condition, one cannot even think about being angry, feeling hurt by someone, or being resentful. Anyone who allows themselves to feel resentment does not yet know the energy of love.

The energy of love is something very sophisticated and, in my view, requires a great deal of work and a long path before one can say, at some point, "I love." It is easy to reach the point of looking at someone and saying, "I love you," but that can sound arrogant. We can say it playfully and with good humor; however, seriously declaring love to someone is no joke. All of this involves paths that must be followed to attain it.

Is planet Earth a place that heals darkness? We do not heal anything here; we are the darkness. Honestly, human beings have no understanding of the simplest and most natural things. We destroy beautiful beaches and exceptionally clean waters; we go there and make everything filthy. The air, which is so essential to our lives, is devastated by us. If you look at São Paulo, the amount of filth in the air is unbelievable.

Do you know when you will feel the difference? When you go to the countryside. Even there, we are destroying all the vegetation, and I do not see anyone concerned about it. If you look at the Amazon rainforest, a beautiful place with wonderful, centuries-old trees, people go there and cut the trees down. This shows a great lack of respect for others, nature, and the planet.

Tell me one thing: is this a planet of regeneration? No, it is not. Now, if you say that we are a planet of darkness, not a place of healing, I believe that is true. We must work very hard to become better. The proposal is to follow a path of behavioral change so that we can bring, not only to ourselves but also to others, all that is best in terms of thought, because everything begins in thought; otherwise, we will accomplish nothing.

What happens when someone has the constant impression of knowing when a person will die or of thinking they always know what will happen? People may have a capacity for perception, precognition, or clairvoyance—that feeling that something is about to happen—which generates worry and anguish. Sometimes you are at home and do not understand why you feel this pressure in your chest and this restlessness. This sensitivity may be natural, but it can also be developed.

Questions raised by this material

  • Does suicide end emotional suffering?
  • Is jumping from a burning building with no way out considered suicide?
  • How can I assess myself to grow spiritually?
  • Is Earth undergoing regeneration?
  • What does it take to develop the energy of love?

Keywords

suicidelife after deathfuture of humanityenvironmentbehavior change

How to cite

Esagüi, M. (2022, September 26). Suicide + Planetary Regeneration [Audio podcast episode]. Center for Consciousness Studies. https://centrodeestudos.org/en/library/suicide-planetary-regeneration/

Suicide + Planetary Regeneration — CEC Library